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sluDgE
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 Posted - 06/01/2008 : 20:21:03
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Yes. Once you get one of the old plates, you can transfer it to a new hybrid -- as long as the new hybrid is on the VDOT approved list of hybrids.  Plate transfer rules apply. |
Edited by - sluDgE on 06/01/2008 20:29:40 |
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NoSUV
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Posted - 06/01/2008 : 23:11:56
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Originally posted by raymond
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Originally posted by NoSUV
wing,
What makes NO sense is for you to drive your Suburban for commuting. Even with slugs.
What makes NO sense is that you, a 'non-slug', SOV driver are still hanging around this website harassing us slugs.
Some good advice: Those who say it can't/shouldn't be done, should not criticize those of us who are doing it!
Some more good advice: fill up those seats in your car! As long as you ride SOV, you have no right to criticize those of us ride HOV.
raymond - you need to be HOV-5 in a conventional compact to have a say in the environmental problems you are causing 100% of the time you are in an automobile. ARE YOU? Or just writing to AGAIN show your ignorance. Those SUVs need to be HOV-15...winglover it's NOT the mpg, but the emissions. |
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Posted - 06/05/2008 : 15:59:24
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Originally posted by NoSUV
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Originally posted by raymond
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Originally posted by NoSUV
wing,
What makes NO sense is for you to drive your Suburban for commuting. Even with slugs.
What makes NO sense is that you, a 'non-slug', SOV driver are still hanging around this website harassing us slugs.
Some good advice: Those who say it can't/shouldn't be done, should not criticize those of us who are doing it!
Some more good advice: fill up those seats in your car! As long as you ride SOV, you have no right to criticize those of us ride HOV.
raymond - you need to be HOV-5 in a conventional compact to have a say in the environmental problems you are causing 100% of the time you are in an automobile. ARE YOU? Or just writing to AGAIN show your ignorance. Those SUVs need to be HOV-15...winglover it's NOT the mpg, but the emissions.
BTW it's the mpg AND the emissions, and the traffic congestion! They are all our problems now! Fill up those hybrid seats! |
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NoSUV
Advanced Member
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Posted - 06/08/2008 : 21:10:06
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What congestion?
If only VA had stayed the course with the hybrid exemption
- gas prices would be lower
- emissions would be lower
- people would be more inclined to pay for transportation benefits - like their ride to work
raymond -- get with the program and GET A HYBRID! EVERYone will thank you. 100% of your time in an auto would be better for both mpg and emissions, not just the commute, AND you, yes raymond, you, could pick up slugs and do MORE than your share.
What's keeping you back? Don't want to be a hero? |
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TWO
New Member
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Posted - 07/02/2008 : 14:58:52
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NoSUV,
Are you a federal employee? You seem to think it's ok to spend the extra bucks to buy a new tool (car), when the existing one most people have can do the job, with less outlay. If it's all about the environment, then your gas burning hybrid is still polluting. |
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NoSUV
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Posted - 07/02/2008 : 16:00:27
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TWO,
How many vehicles are on the road that are 2001 models or newer? If every one of those vehicles were hybrids:
- air pollution would be reduced by 33% more than if a conventional vehicle had been purchased
- fuel consumption, although not zero, would have been reduced by about 50% over conventional
When looking at the environment, instead of looking at absolutes, you might want to look at what is BETTER. This discussion has been on this board since 2004, and for over 4 years posters, like you, have used false assumptions and then tried to justify them. IF ONLY you had purchased a hybrid then, not only would you be better off financially, but you would have helped the environment for those years, and you'd be alleviating the demand side of the gas problem.
IF ONLY... |
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TWO
New Member
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Posted - 07/03/2008 : 08:40:36
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Originally posted by NoSUV
IF ONLY you had purchased a hybrid then, not only would you be better off financially, but you would have helped the environment for those years, and you'd be alleviating the demand side of the gas problem.
IF ONLY...
You don't know what kind of vehicle I own, or commute in. Are you assuming that it's a gas guzzling CAR? I don't think so. |
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NoSUV
Advanced Member
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Posted - 07/03/2008 : 11:04:23
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mdog
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Posted - 07/03/2008 : 13:30:06
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Overall your hybrid does a comparable, if not a bigger damage on the environment than a comparable car. Yes, it may be marginally more efficient than say Chevy Aveo of Ford Focus (esp. on paper  ), but where do you think all the lead and acid and other stuff for the batteries is coming from and goes to? |
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NoSUV
Advanced Member
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Posted - 07/03/2008 : 15:37:08
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mdog,
Asked and answered previously. Your assertations are completely baseless. There have been several postings about the 100% recycling programs from more than one web source.
How do you define marginally? The emissions are 5x less. |
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sluDgE
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Posted - 07/03/2008 : 15:51:06
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NoSUV, Are you saying that a Prius' emissions at highway speeds are five times less than a new Chevy Aveo or new Ford Focus also at highway speeds? That's amazing. Please show us the comparison facts between those three vehicles and your source for that info.
The info I remember (from some news article that mentioned "5 times") compared a Prius to a big SUV (like a Tahoe or Expedition). |
Edited by - sluDgE on 07/03/2008 16:03:09 |
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mdog
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Posted - 07/03/2008 : 22:02:01
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sluDgE, according to NoSUV, hybrids produce completely different type of emissions. Those that are known to heal cancer and bring peace on Earth. Continiously. 
From http://www.hybridcars.com/gas-mileage-factors/aggressive-driving-and-gas-mileage.html:
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The most dramatic comparison in the multi-vehicle DOE study was analyzing the differences between the Toyota Prius—the quintessential hybrid—and the Jaguar XJ8, a high-performance vehicle. To establish a baseline for efficiency, the DOE researchers searched for the speed at which each vehicle was the most efficient. They used a treadmill-like device called dynamometer to run the vehicles at a constant speed for 30 continuous minutes. The most efficient speed for the Toyota Prius was 20 mph, and its least efficient level was 70 mph.
It's obvious hybrids shine - and belong!- in cities and stop-n-go traffic. They have no place on HOV.
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NoSUV
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Posted - 07/04/2008 : 13:45:36
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Originally posted by sluDgE
NoSUV, Are you saying that a Prius' emissions at highway speeds are five times less than a new Chevy Aveo or new Ford Focus also at highway speeds? That's amazing. Please show us the comparison facts between those three vehicles and your source for that info.
The info I remember (from some news article that mentioned "5 times") compared a Prius to a big SUV (like a Tahoe or Expedition).
The newspaper article compared a Prius first to like compact vehicles and came up with the 5x. It then compared to a big SUV and showed that the emissions was 15x. Finally, it compared to a hummer - 45x. |
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NoSUV
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Posted - 07/04/2008 : 13:50:41
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Originally posted by mdog
sluDgE, according to NoSUV, hybrids produce completely different type of emissions. Those that are known to heal cancer and bring peace on Earth. Continiously.
From http://www.hybridcars.com/gas-mileage-factors/aggressive-driving-and-gas-mileage.html:
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The most dramatic comparison in the multi-vehicle DOE study was analyzing the differences between the Toyota Prius—the quintessential hybrid—and the Jaguar XJ8, a high-performance vehicle. To establish a baseline for efficiency, the DOE researchers searched for the speed at which each vehicle was the most efficient. They used a treadmill-like device called dynamometer to run the vehicles at a constant speed for 30 continuous minutes. The most efficient speed for the Toyota Prius was 20 mph, and its least efficient level was 70 mph.
It's obvious hybrids shine - and belong!- in cities and stop-n-go traffic. They have no place on HOV.
And the "most efficient speed" for your vehicle is what - 35 mph? Is that the speed at which you travel?
How efficient is YOUR vehicle at 70?
Instead of distorting facts, how about some more useful information.
Figures don't lie, but liars figure. |
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mdog
Average Member
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Posted - 07/04/2008 : 23:33:31
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NoSUV, no it's you who's refusing to face the facts: hybrids are not 5x more efficient than comparable cars. Even more, hybrids efficiency is a function of diminishing returns, and the bigger/heavier the hybrid, the less it's advantage with a comparable non-hybrid car. Good example - Lexus LS. Stop comparing your Prius to a Hammer. Compare it with Focus, Chevy Cobalt, Nissan Versa. Compare their mileage @ 60-70 MPG. The real one, not 'EPA estimate'. A Cobalt with 3 occupants does at least twice smaller damage to the environment than 3 hybrids. Plain and simple.
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