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NO44
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 Posted - 10/25/2011 : 15:32:52
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Seriously.. it's bad enough you are on HOV to begin with...HOV stands for High Occupancy Vehicles, not Hybrids On Vacation...If you insist on being on HOV, please leave the left lane for PASSERS. I have passed so many oblivious people in Hybrids strolling along like they are on vacation, mostly going 60 MPH or slower in the PASSING lane. MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NoSUV
Advanced Member
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Posted - 10/28/2011 : 01:34:20
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Originally posted by NO44
Seriously.. it's bad enough you are on HOV to begin with...HOV stands for High Occupancy Vehicles, not Hybrids On Vacation...If you insist on being on HOV, please leave the left lane for PASSERS. I have passed so many oblivious people in Hybrids strolling along like they are on vacation, mostly going 60 MPH or slower in the PASSING lane. MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nic
Nearly all of the road hogs are in SUVs, not hybrids. Except for buses, which are CLEARLY better than POVs with only a couple of passengers.
Why don't you get on the bus? |
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shorty5646
Senior Member Member
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Posted - 10/31/2011 : 14:40:58
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Originally posted by NoSUV
[quote]Nearly all of the road hogs are in SUVs, not hybrids. Except for buses, which are CLEARLY better than POVs with only a couple of passengers.
Why don't you get on the bus?
This message board is part of the SLUG-LINES.COM website.
Why don't you find a new hobby? |
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NoSUV
Advanced Member
1076 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2011 : 17:08:51
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Originally posted by shorty5646
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Originally posted by NoSUV
[quote]Nearly all of the road hogs are in SUVs, not hybrids. Except for buses, which are CLEARLY better than POVs with only a couple of passengers.
Why don't you get on the bus?
This message board is part of the SLUG-LINES.COM website.
Why don't you find a new hobby?
Please look at the specific topic group. When I look at it, it says "Hybrids". What does it say for you?
I guess those don't like the facts feel that it's better to just not listen. Do you also censor those who believe in evolution? |
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Spectrepilot
Junior Member
39 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2012 : 17:23:03
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What is wrong with using a SUV?
Whenever I drive my SUV I ALWAYS take slugs and usually three. On several occasions I've taken more including during a huge thunderstorm a few years back when I actually took 7 people from the Pentagon to Sydenstryker. When we got to Sydenstryker I took each person to their car and when I found out two people didn't have cars there (both were waiting for family to pick them up), I drove BOTH of them home.
Hybrids should not be on the HOV unless they have three total people, all you are doing is proving your self-centered attitude by driving a single person to work and clogging up the road. |
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RetiredMarine
Average Member
98 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2012 : 09:21:47
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NoSUV
Advanced Member
1076 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2012 : 15:52:59
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Originally posted by Spectrepilot
What is wrong with using a SUV?
Whenever I drive my SUV I ALWAYS take slugs and usually three. On several occasions I've taken more including during a huge thunderstorm a few years back when I actually took 7 people from the Pentagon to Sydenstryker. When we got to Sydenstryker I took each person to their car and when I found out two people didn't have cars there (both were waiting for family to pick them up), I drove BOTH of them home.
Hybrids should not be on the HOV unless they have three total people, all you are doing is proving your self-centered attitude by driving a single person to work and clogging up the road.
Why the half measure? By your reasoning, why not eliminate every vehicle from the EXPRESS LANES (their official name and original intended use) except for what was first allowed, only buses? That would clear the clog while getting people who use the road to actually pay for it. |
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lisad219
Junior Member
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Posted - 02/14/2012 : 11:53:00
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Hybrids are the slowest people on the HOV. It's annoying. Almost like they are in "la-la" land.  I have posted about his before. I am NOT saying all Hybrid drivers drive this way, but most of the cars going too slow in the left lane or just going slow in general are Hybrids. |
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NoSUV
Advanced Member
1076 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2012 : 16:58:35
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Originally posted by lisad219
Hybrids are the slowest people on the HOV. It's annoying. Almost like they are in "la-la" land. I have posted about his before. I am NOT saying all Hybrid drivers drive this way, but most of the cars going too slow in the left lane or just going slow in general are Hybrids.
I usually find that the slow pokes in the fast lane are SUVs. |
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mdog
Average Member
67 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2012 : 10:59:58
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One of the main reasons hybrids are slow is because they are underpowered (smaller engines to keep MPG high) and overweight (extra weight of all those batteries), which becomes apparent in highway high speed driving conditions where power/weight is crucial. Long uphill stretches like b.w Duke and Seminary St. where hybrids struggle to even maintain speed is a good illustration.
However, considering a lot of them are equiped with low rolling resitance (= low friction) tires that are terrible in the road handling and stopping distance departments, them driving slow may be not such a bad thing after all. |
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lisad219
Junior Member
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Posted - 02/17/2012 : 12:01:12
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I have nothing against Hybrids other than I notice they are the majority of the slow pokes. Whether SUV or Hybrid - I think the main point here is stay in the right lane no matter what you drive to allow people to pass.  |
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sluDgE
Moderator
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Posted - 02/17/2012 : 12:27:33
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| And let's all hope those drivers passing in the left lane will be courteous enough to let the drivers in the right lane move to the left to make their left-hand exits between DC and the Occoquan (such as Shirlington, Seminary Rd, VA-644, VA-7900, and others). |
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Pele
Advanced Member
USA
316 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2012 : 14:41:40
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Originally posted by mdog
One of the main reasons hybrids are slow is because they are underpowered (smaller engines to keep MPG high) and overweight (extra weight of all those batteries), which becomes apparent in highway high speed driving conditions where power/weight is crucial. Long uphill stretches like b.w Duke and Seminary St. where hybrids struggle to even maintain speed is a good illustration.
However, considering a lot of them are equiped with low rolling resitance (= low friction) tires that are terrible in the road handling and stopping distance departments, them driving slow may be not such a bad thing after all.
The small gasoline engine is made up for by the high torque of the electric motor... Hard acceleration and hard braking are actually where a hybrid stands out, hence their improved mileage in the city.
One really needs to adapt their driving style to the hybrid drivetrain, they aren't the average car. I've gotten the Ford Escape and Fusion Hybrids at work hauling rear on the beltway.
I would love to get a hold of a 1st gen (2000-2006) Honda Insight or 2003-2005 Civic Hybrid. You can really get them moving on a tight road race or autocross course. Unfortunately, finding one that isn't beaten to crap and equipped with a manual transmission is damn near impossible. Until then, I'm kinda stuck with the 1991 Honda CRX.
However I do agree with you on the LRR tires. I keep three sets of wheels for the CRX. Performance all seasons on alloy wheels for everyday use; Snow tires on steelies for the winter; and R-Compounds on ultralight alloy wheels for the track. Proper traction goes a long way towards keeping one from becoming a red smear on the Jersey wall.
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Times to beat:
Horner Rd to/from Pentagon: 12 mins Without Slugs - 17 mins With slugs
Dale City exit to/from 3rd St Tunnel, D.C. 18 mins (No slugs - Holiday) |
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mdog
Average Member
67 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2012 : 08:59:13
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The small gasoline engine is made up for by the high torque of the electric motor... Hard acceleration and hard braking are actually where a hybrid stands out, hence their improved mileage in the city.
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Torque is important for acceleration from stand still, and just like you've said, hybrids shine in stop-n-go traffic (or tight road race or autocross course).
However, at highway speeds you primarily need power, not torque, to move fast. |
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Pele
Advanced Member
USA
316 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2012 : 12:14:43
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Originally posted by mdog
Torque is important for acceleration from stand still, and just like you've said, hybrids shine in stop-n-go traffic (or tight road race or autocross course).
However, at highway speeds you primarily need power, not torque, to move fast.
Not when you weigh less than 2000 lbs and have one of the lowest drag coefficients of any production car. :D
Once you get it up to speed, you can set a feather on the throttle and it'll maintain its speed.
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Times to beat:
Horner Rd to/from Pentagon: 12 mins Without Slugs - 17 mins With slugs
Dale City exit to/from 3rd St Tunnel, D.C. 18 mins (No slugs - Holiday) |
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mdog
Average Member
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Posted - 02/21/2012 : 15:15:39
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Originally posted by Pele
Not when you weigh less than 2000 lbs and have one of the lowest drag coefficients of any production car. :D
Once you get it up to speed, you can set a feather on the throttle and it'll maintain its speed.
I bet all those left lane hoggers OP wrote about think the same... |
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