Delegegates Betray Us - Extend Hybrids

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   It was about skipping lines, not breakfast.  Even if the Hybrid driver eats breakfast, and the slugs skip, they are going to get to work faster than most slugs taking the same route.

	That's why they don't care as much about HOV lane congestion.  Their trips are a lot shorter than ours.

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MDC Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MDC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 2006 at 4:53pm
	It was about skipping lines, not breakfast. Even if the Hybrid driver eats breakfast, and the slugs skip, they are going to get to work faster than most slugs taking the same route. That's why they don't care as much about HOV lane congestion. Their trips are a lot shorter than ours.

Luddite Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Luddite Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 2006 at 3:40pm
	MDC, My assessment was about the travel mess in the HOV lanes not other activities. I guess that your assessment should have mentioned that those who skip breakfast would also have a shorter commute. Respectfully submitted with tongue planted firmly in cheek. For now, let's just stay focused on picking on the sov hybrids.

MDC Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MDC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 2006 at 3:12pm
	It's simple why they would vote the way they did. You don't even have to study the issue to know that being "pro hybrid" is an easy "pro environment" position to take regardless of it's effect on the environment. It doesn't matter that congested HOV lanes is about the worst thing they could do for the environment, traffic and pollution wise.

Patriot37 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Patriot37 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 2006 at 2:45pm
	Well said. It is evident, from the people to the delegtes, that we wan't to make better environmental and technology choices that also fit our daily lives. These incentives are proving very useful and the hybrids are just a scratch in the scratch. With what the hybrids have started will be truely incredible in 5 or 10 years. Imagine a mass transit hydrogen powered van? See you in the future.

MDC Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MDC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 2006 at 2:24pm
	Don't worry NoSUV. Soon HOV will stand for Hybrid Only Vehicles, and you can go back to calling them HOV again!

NoSUV Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote NoSUV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 2006 at 1:46pm
	quote: Originally posted by duckduffer [br]Folks.. this is all good. but is anyone contacting their reps and the Gov in Richmond???? Let's some posting here and send emails to all our reps in Richmond.. Let them know how we feel![B)] I've contacted many - and sent proof to Robert Lang. Have yet to find a delegate NOT in favor of extending the exemption. The article is interesting - proves that without incentive, few seem to want to improve the environment by buying a hybrid. Also proves that you don't have to take taxpayer funds to provide an incentive. Folks in Germany that I spoke with over the summer couldn't believe that Virginia even had such a progressive plan to try to improve the environment - "That's so unlike America," they said. After all, how many miles do YOU drive SOV in your "no attempt to improve fuel economy or air quality" vehicle? Unless you are walking everywhere, you are the problem.

MDC Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MDC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 2006 at 12:04pm
	dickboyd, When people bought their hybrids (which the article was about), they knew there was a sunset date on the exemption. That's what I'm talking about.

dickboyd Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 13 Nov 2004 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote dickboyd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 2006 at 11:22am
	quote: Originally posted by MDC [br]"It seems a bit disingenuous that people make an investment and have done what we've promoted them to do, and then we change the rules on them." It seems that the rules were already set, and they all knew the exemption would expire in 2004, and later in 2006. Which rules are you describing? The original rules that attempted to keep ALL lanes free flowing? The original rules which were HOV-4? If thinking up answers to these questions gives you a headache, take two asprins, recruit three slugs and call me on Monday. dickboyd@aol.com

MDC Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MDC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 2006 at 11:14am
	"It seems a bit disingenuous that people make an investment and have done what we've promoted them to do, and then we change the rules on them." It seems that the rules were already set, and they all knew the exemption would expire in 2004, and later in 2006.

MDC Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MDC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 2006 at 11:11am
	Luddite, You're wrong in your assessment. SOV hybrids don't deal with parking, slug lines, drop-offs, or any of the normal carpool or slug activites. They can save 10, 20, or more minutes each way by taking the shortest route and not dealing with any of that. Even under optimal slugging conditions with no waiting in line, you'll never have as short a commute as the SOV hybrids.