Looking for Allies to Battle HOT

Wrong! Slugs that I have talked with (and I have talked with many, you should try it) came from their own SOV cars to the slug lines. Their cars now sit while they occupy seats in drivers' cars. You should get smart, NoSUV; stop arguing and start picking up slugs. Put your money where your mouth is!

But no, you don't want to socialize with lowly slugs. You want to drive SOV and put slugs on a bus. Elitist! Bourgeoise! Wait, you drive a car too. That means you burn gas, you contribute to dependence on foriegn fossil fuel, you pollute, and you add to traffic congestion!

Hmmmmm, but you don't want to stop driving your car, and you don't want to pick up slugs or carpool. That means you don't want to take part in your own "solution." That also means that if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. And that makes you a hypocrit!

But anyone who reads this forum knows that!

NoSUV:

Putting slugs on buses changes nothing. Same number of vehicles as now, same commuter-throughput on the system.

SOV's like you getting in carpools or buses reduces the number of vehicles in the system.

Reduce vehicles, increase people. Toll roads encourage the opposite. SOV exemptions on OUR carpool lanes do the opposite.

I rode the bus Monday. I do it all the time, north or south-bound. You?

Share a ride or go away, NoSUV.

Well, As for the slugs, since they don't drive and their cars sit in commuter lots all day, if they rode busses instead of slugging, 0 net difference in traffic.

However, I know that if every SOV driver (hybrids included) got on a bus, the number of cars on the road would decrease.


Here's an idea; let's get EVERYONE off the road. Then the lanes would be smooth sailing for NoSUV. Then you would have to gripe about something else. Geeese! Like a baby in a sand box, NoSUV just wants every toy and every thing just so.

When HOT tolls start hitting NoSUVs pocketbook (just like the rest of us), we will have an ally in opposition, but only because it dosen't suit NoSUV. Typical!

I suggest putting SOV'ers in busses first.

Interesting the faulty logic (is it logic if it's flawed?) used by some:

Let's take the least number of vehicles off the road by making the most number of people ride the bus. If one can look at this for a second....might we have 20% of the vehicles carrying 80% of the commuters daily under the current arrangment? If 20% of the commuters are causing 80% of the problem, which percentage would you look to "encourage" to change their commuting efforts?

In some mixed up minds, making 80% of the commuters (carpoolers, slugs and mass transit riders) change their commuting habits to accommodate the 20% (SOV-inclined people) makes sense.

Glad some can look at the real numbers and see the wisdom in encouraging carpooling and slugging.

NoSb

SOV because you can, HOV because you care!