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    Posted: 19 Jan 2007 at 11:03am

here is a link to a huge blog site with many articles on the brewing rebellion in Texas against the massive plans to create toll roads and privatize existing roads. Scroll down through the initial articles to get to the good stuff.


http://corridornews.blogspot.com/2007_01_01_corridornews_archive.html
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It seems like some lawmakers admit tolls are destined to fail in the long run.
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I've been following that fight for awhile. It is less a fight about toll roads per se, than about cutting a private-enterprise highway through some backyards. It is kind of like the power lines debate along I66.
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Take a look at this article on the Texas toll rebellion and their concern about non-compete clauses. We cann look to Texas to see where we will be in a few years.

http://tollroadsnews.info/artman/publish/article_1773.shtml
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Victory in Texas against toll plans and corrupt politicos. They have a veto proof majority in Austin that will thwart the pro toll Governor. Fantastic. I wish we could generate even half of their political activism. Wow.


http://satollparty.com/post/
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If you scroll down that last link, you'll notice that the bottom article references the NAFTA Superhighway. That's the one side of the argument - some people trying to make a buck. The other side is the NIMBY crowd.

Having lived down there, and still going there on occasion, I'm with the NIMBY crowd. No one needs to spoil the openness of the Kerrville/Fredericksburg area...

That said, anyone been down there lately and seen the congestion on 35? Road size has doubled in the past 10-15 years (between San Antonio and Austin anyway) and it's getting more congested all the time.
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The battle against the tolling of Texas highways continues. The TX legislature is dealing with the issue of the contract relationship between the state and the toll companies when a toll project is taken over by the state. Texas is saying that if they terminate a toll project, the toll companies will only be compensated for their existing investment to that point. Get this -- the toll company argument is that they can claim a part of what the future revenues WOULD HAVE been! And of course the guy that runs Toll Roads news agrees with them. Virginia is so naive on this. They don't know what future legal battles await 10 years down the road.


http://www.tollroadsnews.com/node/115
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NEW YORK THRUWAY AUTHORITY (NYSTA)

Perhaps someone has some insight into the formation of NYSTA (circa 1946). In my mind, this is THE most successful toll road. There are also some toll bridges that are good, but for a major highway, NYSTA is tops in my book.

NYSTA is worth a look see for historical interest if not how to model a toll system of roads.

Where is Robert Moses when you really need him?

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Originally posted by DC2RV
[br]If you scroll down that last link, you'll notice that the bottom article references the NAFTA Superhighway. That's the one side of the argument - some people trying to make a buck. The other side is the NIMBY crowd.

Having lived down there, and still going there on occasion, I'm with the NIMBY crowd. No one needs to spoil the openness of the Kerrville/Fredericksburg area...

That said, anyone been down there lately and seen the congestion on 35? Road size has doubled in the past 10-15 years (between San Antonio and Austin anyway) and it's getting more congested all the time.




Yes, I travel to that part of Texas regularly. The new toll sections along the I35 N/S corridor (including the new section of MOPAC in N. Austin to Round Rock), are popping up everywhere. The Texas highways are set up diferently though, as the previous roadways are becoming "service roads" that follow the toll routes. Toll roads offer express lanes along these routes; the service roads run on the sides, have traffic lights and act as collectors for the toll road exits. "Service roads" are a confusing system at first, but actually work great once you become familiar with it.

A signifncant difference is that the Texas Toll roads are NEW construction; these "express" routes did not exist prior to the toll roads. The NOVA projects will take existing roadways, built and paid for with NOVA tax dollars; repaint, repave, and convert them to tolls. Literally, HIGHWAY ROBBERY!
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Folks, Pay attention to what is happening in Texas! This is a preview of what is happening here in NOVA...

The Trans-Texas Corridor (TTC), which includes plans to build so-called "public-private partnerships" that are very similar to the Flour-Transurban HOT deal here in NOVA, would involve at least three major Texas interstates and several bridges. This plan sells the rights to charge tolls to foriegn investment groups who commit to building and maintaining the roads, thus taking these public roads out of the public domain (sound familiar?).

It has so much political steam behind it that, despite the efforts of several groups, including the trucking industry, public interest groups, property owners and other grass roots organizations, it may very well be pushed through. Yes folks, this means that despite what the populace wants, despite what many would consider common sense red flags, despite objections and outcries from well-funded industries, many politicians (at least those with the power) have latched on to this as a solution.

In fact, legislation aimed at establishing a moriturium on further construction on the TTC, SB792 and HB1892, passed in the state legislative houses almost unanimously, and still are threatened by a Governor's veto.

Please read more about this at: http://www.corridorwatch.org/ttc/index.htm

This is what I mean when I say, "HOT is HIGHWAY ROBBERY!"


Edit by MDC: Fixed link :)
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