George Barker Still Hates Slugs
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Topic: George Barker Still Hates Slugs
Posted By: colossus911
Subject: George Barker Still Hates Slugs
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2011 at 1:24pm
I griped about this since he was elected but just wanted to throw the reminder out there since he is up for reelect. Since his election Sen. George Barker has done nothing to help slugs or slugging.
Sen. George Barker Hates Slugs and Slugging
One of his very first votes was to extend the Hybrid exemption for HOV lanes to allow single passenger hybrids to continue using HOV lanes. Regardless that increasing gas prices are resulting in more and more vehicles are crowding the HOV lanes and slowing the commute.
And every year since Sen. Barker has proven through his votes that he hates the SLUG system and instead supports Hybrid drivers and big developers. All of this at the expense of those of us trapped in traffic behind all the single drivers in the HOV lanes.
I would urge you to email him at district39@sov.state.va.us, however he hasn't responded to my repeated emails but you might have more luck.
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Posted By: NoSUV
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2011 at 2:29pm
quote: Originally posted by colossus911
I griped about this since he was elected but just wanted to throw the reminder out there since he is up for reelect. Since his election Sen. George Barker has done nothing to help slugs or slugging.
Sen. George Barker Hates Slugs and Slugging
One of his very first votes was to extend the Hybrid exemption for HOV lanes to allow single passenger hybrids to continue using HOV lanes. Regardless that increasing gas prices are resulting in more and more vehicles are crowding the HOV lanes and slowing the commute.
And every year since Sen. Barker has proven through his votes that he hates the SLUG system and instead supports Hybrid drivers and big developers. All of this at the expense of those of us trapped in traffic behind all the single drivers in the HOV lanes.
I would urge you to email him at district39@sov.state.va.us, however he hasn't responded to my repeated emails but you might have more luck.
Remember, if slugs stood in line for and took a bus instead of being freeloaders, we would:
- have cleaner air
- use less gas
- reduce congestion by 60%
- have funding for transportation improvements
What we REALLY need is for more enlightened legislators like Sen Barker, who are willing to stand up to the slug lobby and advocate the more sensible commuting alternative. If only we could do away with the HOV exemption in the express lanes and make them for mass transit and hybrids only, then we would finally have a transportation solution that would be the envy of the world.
Has anyone else noticed that no other community uses the slug system? And that every other community has a better commute? It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to realize the clear cause and effect.
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Posted By: oldgoat09
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2011 at 3:35pm
From Wikipedia;
'slugging also occurs in San Francisco, Houston, and internationally'.
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Posted By: RetiredMarine
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2011 at 7:31am
Another way to reduce traffic is to require the hybirds to also have three!
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Posted By: mycroftt
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2011 at 8:56am
quote: Originally posted by RetiredMarine
Another way to reduce traffic is to require the hybirds to also have three!
I agree. It's best to go with the low-hanging fruit first. Get all single-occupant vehicles off the highway by removing incentives for their socially and environmentally irresponsible behavior.
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Posted By: Bodybykids
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2011 at 9:10am
quote: Originally posted by NoSUV
quote: Originally posted by colossus911
I griped about this since he was elected but just wanted to throw the reminder out there since he is up for reelect. Since his election Sen. George Barker has done nothing to help slugs or slugging.
Sen. George Barker Hates Slugs and Slugging
One of his very first votes was to extend the Hybrid exemption for HOV lanes to allow single passenger hybrids to continue using HOV lanes. Regardless that increasing gas prices are resulting in more and more vehicles are crowding the HOV lanes and slowing the commute.
And every year since Sen. Barker has proven through his votes that he hates the SLUG system and instead supports Hybrid drivers and big developers. All of this at the expense of those of us trapped in traffic behind all the single drivers in the HOV lanes.
I would urge you to email him at district39@sov.state.va.us, however he hasn't responded to my repeated emails but you might have more luck.
Remember, if slugs stood in line for and took a bus instead of being freeloaders, we would:
- have cleaner air
- use less gas
- reduce congestion by 60%
- have funding for transportation improvements
What we REALLY need is for more enlightened legislators like Sen Barker, who are willing to stand up to the slug lobby and advocate the more sensible commuting alternative. If only we could do away with the HOV exemption in the express lanes and make them for mass transit and hybrids only, then we would finally have a transportation solution that would be the envy of the world.
Has anyone else noticed that no other community uses the slug system? And that every other community has a better commute? It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to realize the clear cause and effect.
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Posted By: Bodybykids
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2011 at 9:18am
NoSUV
If you are against slugging, why are you on this board with 1000+ posts?
If I am going to stand in line and pay the $15 per day it would take to use the bus and metro to get to work, I might as well drive my car and pick up 2 - 3 slugs.
If using the bus/metro were cost effective it might be a viable option.
At this time, PRTC has made it quite clear that the resources are not there to add more buses to their fleet and PWC will not see "metro" in the area any time in the forseeable future.
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Posted By: NoSUV
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2011 at 4:06pm
quote: Originally posted by Bodybykids
NoSUV
If I am going to stand in line and pay the $15 per day it would take to use the bus and metro to get to work, I might as well drive my car and pick up 2 - 3 slugs.
If using the bus/metro were cost effective it might be a viable option.
My point EXACTLY! If HOV could be banned, you'd be stuck actually paying for your commute. That would lead to all of the benefits listed previously - especially providing a source of transportation revenue.
And like ObamaCare, if more use something, the price goes down.
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Posted By: VAwitch
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2011 at 12:17pm
quote: Originally posted by NoSUV
quote: Originally posted by colossus911
I griped about this since he was elected but just wanted to throw the reminder out there since he is up for reelect. Since his election Sen. George Barker has done nothing to help slugs or slugging.
Sen. George Barker Hates Slugs and Slugging
One of his very first votes was to extend the Hybrid exemption for HOV lanes to allow single passenger hybrids to continue using HOV lanes. Regardless that increasing gas prices are resulting in more and more vehicles are crowding the HOV lanes and slowing the commute.
And every year since Sen. Barker has proven through his votes that he hates the SLUG system and instead supports Hybrid drivers and big developers. All of this at the expense of those of us trapped in traffic behind all the single drivers in the HOV lanes.
I would urge you to email him at district39@sov.state.va.us, however he hasn't responded to my repeated emails but you might have more luck.
Remember, if slugs stood in line for and took a bus instead of being freeloaders, we would:
- have cleaner air
- use less gas
- reduce congestion by 60%
- have funding for transportation improvements
What we REALLY need is for more enlightened legislators like Sen Barker, who are willing to stand up to the slug lobby and advocate the more sensible commuting alternative. If only we could do away with the HOV exemption in the express lanes and make them for mass transit and hybrids only, then we would finally have a transportation solution that would be the envy of the world.
Has anyone else noticed that no other community uses the slug system? And that every other community has a better commute? It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to realize the clear cause and effect.
I fail to see how allowing 1-occupant hybrid drivers is better than allowing a 3-4 occupant "freeloader" vehicle.
In addition, how do you propose to prove slugging vs paid carpools who are by no means "freeloaders" but are removing 1-4 cars from the main lanes of traffic?
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Posted By: Jody
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2011 at 3:13pm
The metro system is aging, unreliable and packed to capacity. No way would it be able to handle the additional riders. And, as someone noted, if I'm paying $15, metro had better guarantee me a seat (as the slug system does every day).
The only chance VDOT had to get rid of the slug system was building the HOT lanes all the way into DC. Thanks to Arlington and Alexandria filing the lawsuit, a portion of I395 will remain HOV and carpools will continue to ride free.
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Posted By: scottt
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2011 at 6:11pm
quote: Originally posted by Bodybykids
NoSUV
If you are against slugging, why are you on this board with 1000+ posts?
If I am going to stand in line and pay the $15 per day it would take to use the bus and metro to get to work, I might as well drive my car and pick up 2 - 3 slugs.
If using the bus/metro were cost effective it might be a viable option.
At this time, PRTC has made it quite clear that the resources are not there to add more buses to their fleet and PWC will not see "metro" in the area any time in the forseeable future.
Please don't feed the troll.
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Posted By: Bodybykids
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2011 at 8:19am
quote: Originally posted by NoSUV
quote: Originally posted by Bodybykids
NoSUV
If I am going to stand in line and pay the $15 per day it would take to use the bus and metro to get to work, I might as well drive my car and pick up 2 - 3 slugs.
If using the bus/metro were cost effective it might be a viable option.
My point EXACTLY! If HOV could be banned, you'd be stuck actually paying for your commute. That would lead to all of the benefits listed previously - especially providing a source of transportation revenue.
And like ObamaCare, if more use something, the price goes down.
NoSUV.....my reply is not your point exactly. People are going to drive REGARDLESS. Commuter Buses provided "options" but they are not always the right option. Commuter Buses add an additional at minimun of 20 min to my commute. Taking a "bus" and "metro" is not economically feasible for me or plenty of others. It is less costly to "slug-ride" or "slug-drive". When I drive, I always take "3". Thats 3 other vehicles off the road.
I find that the opposite is true - THE MORE YOU USE SOMETHING, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT GETS.
You definitely have a warped sense of thinking.
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Posted By: Pele
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2011 at 12:01pm
quote: Originally posted by NoSUV
Remember, if hybrid owners stood in line for and took a bus instead of being freeloaders, we would:
- have cleaner air
- use less gas
- reduce congestion by 60%
- have funding for transportation improvements
Fixed for truth...
I really couldn't have said it better myself.
So nice that you see it realistically now.
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Times to beat:
Horner Rd to/from Pentagon: 12 mins Without Slugs - 17 mins With slugs
Dale City exit to/from 3rd St Tunnel, D.C. 18 mins (No slugs - Holiday)
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Posted By: NoSUV
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2011 at 1:45am
quote: Originally posted by Pele
quote: Originally posted by NoSUV
Remember, if hybrid owners stood in line for and took a bus instead of being freeloaders, we would:
- have cleaner air
- use less gas
- reduce congestion by 60%
- have funding for transportation improvements
Fixed for truth...
I really couldn't have said it better myself.
So nice that you see it realistically now.
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Times to beat:
Horner Rd to/from Pentagon: 12 mins Without Slugs - 17 mins With slugs
Dale City exit to/from 3rd St Tunnel, D.C. 18 mins (No slugs - Holiday)
Actually, Pele, the way you wrote it is a lie - you really wouldn't know the truth, now would you. You must be in politics.
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Posted By: Pele
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2011 at 5:01am
^ I could ask you the same thing since you don't ever seem to see things logically.
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Times to beat:
Horner Rd to/from Pentagon: 12 mins Without Slugs - 17 mins With slugs
Dale City exit to/from 3rd St Tunnel, D.C. 18 mins (No slugs - Holiday)
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Posted By: USA
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 12:05pm
Returning to the original topic:
If you guys are interested in voting for someone who knows the slug system quite well, you ought to consider voting for Miller Baker (Barker's opponent). I worked with him for nine years. Miller used to pick up slugs every day from the Horner Road line until he and his wife moved across the river to Clifton.
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Posted By: marchf
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2011 at 12:39pm
quote: Originally posted by NoSUV
quote: Originally posted by colossus911
I griped about this since he was elected but just wanted to throw the reminder out there since he is up for reelect. Since his election Sen. George Barker has done nothing to help slugs or slugging.
Sen. George Barker Hates Slugs and Slugging
One of his very first votes was to extend the Hybrid exemption for HOV lanes to allow single passenger hybrids to continue using HOV lanes. Regardless that increasing gas prices are resulting in more and more vehicles are crowding the HOV lanes and slowing the commute.
And every year since Sen. Barker has proven through his votes that he hates the SLUG system and instead supports Hybrid drivers and big developers. All of this at the expense of those of us trapped in traffic behind all the single drivers in the HOV lanes.
I would urge you to email him at district39@sov.state.va.us, however he hasn't responded to my repeated emails but you might have more luck.
Remember, if slugs stood in line for and took a bus instead of being freeloaders, we would:
- have cleaner air
- use less gas
- reduce congestion by 60%
- have funding for transportation improvements
What we REALLY need is for more enlightened legislators like Sen Barker, who are willing to stand up to the slug lobby and advocate the more sensible commuting alternative. If only we could do away with the HOV exemption in the express lanes and make them for mass transit and hybrids only, then we would finally have a transportation solution that would be the envy of the world.
Has anyone else noticed that no other community uses the slug system? And that every other community has a better commute? It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to realize the clear cause and effect.
This is America; we can slug, take a bus, sit in traffic, or drive a big fat SUV to werk. If ewe don't like it, then leave. Move to Cuba or China and ride ewe bus there with the goats and chickens.
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