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SillyBilly ![]() New Slug ![]() Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Great googly moogly!
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NoSUV ![]() New Slug ![]() Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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quote: Max, A previous post had links to historical items from around 1974. I used that link and quoted from the precursor of VDOT to get my facts. The lanes were originally for buses only - HOV was an after thought. Just like hybrids, only 25 years later. |
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n/a ![]() New Slug ![]() Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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So what! Nothing that NoSUV has said changes the fact that SOV hybrids add to congestion in lanes designed for HOVs (personal, private or whatever).
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MDC ![]() New Slug ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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NoSUV knows that a vast majority of the HOV lanes were built in the late 1980's and 1990's solely for HOV. Of course, HoSUV only cares about the 7 miles NoSUV drives on.
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Wagonman ![]() New Slug ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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quote: Do me a favor and tell us what the emissions rating of your car is? It is located in the engine bay. quote: Dr Gridlock is biased and you can't rely on a moderated column as representative of the population. quote: Did they ask how people felt if half the hybirds were as dirty or dirtier than the average new car? Polls are easily designed to elicit an answer you want. |
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ProNo ![]() New Slug ![]() Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Man of Reason,
I would challenge that poll on two counts: 1. I would also like to know where those who were polled commuted from, and at what times (that is, what portion of the people polled contend with the worst of the consequences from SOV hybrids.) 2. Most importanly, I would want to know what portion of the polled individuals were themselves hybrid owners. If we assume that 22% of those polled were already hybrid owners (which is the accepted proportion of total HOV traffic), we can also assume the answers from that 22% block would be automatically in favor of hybrid exemptions because no hybrid owner would oppose their own benefit. So, if you subtract 22 points (the proportion of "automatic yes" hybrid owners) from the survey's "in favor" category, you're left with only 34% of regular folks in favor and 45% of regular folks opposed. Maybe in future polls, SOV hyrid owners should only be allowed 1/3 of a vote. -ProNo |
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NoSUV ![]() New Slug ![]() Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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ProNo: I don't think MoR ever said that the poll was just taken of users of the express lanes during HOV hours. I think you accidentally jumped to that conclusion.
The world WOULD be a better place if at least 22% of all vehicles were hybrids, but I'm not sure that a measly 8K are enough. |
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savage1 ![]() New Slug ![]() Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Location: DC Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I believe SLUGS would feel better about Hybrids if when we looked into their cars there were at least "2 passengers" rather than ONE[:p]
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