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beachhead
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Ouuuch! You da man, Sponge.
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carleric
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He's not just yellow and absorbent (does he happen to live in a pineapple under the sea?), the Sponge is also a debater extraordinaire.
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hondu
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It's really so simple Hybrid folk; JUST SHARE YOUR RIDE. My gasoline- only powered Civic gets 38mpg and I have two or three others with me - do the math - that's 154mpg most mornings and 114mpg most afternoons - so if you're riding solo your 48/51 aint no big thing. Even the big beasts out there getting 15mpg are up in your league when they're carrying three riders.
As a driver for eight years now I can honestly tell you it really isn't a big deal having to pick up folks before every commute and drop them off, right along your route going into work in the am then coming home in the pm. You've got great cars; they're doing good things for the air we breath and the resources we all covet. I'll most likely be driving one at this time next year. It's just all so simple - again - JUST SHARE YOUR RIDE! |
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wdossel
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Well, here's another log to toss on the high-bred bonfire -- just how green are those vehicles when the entire package is considered? What happens to those battery packs when they eventually have to be changed out or the car is disposed? What is the recyclable content? Do they have something like Volvo's PremAir (r) (http://new.volvocars.com/whyvolvo/why_standard_envir.asp#) that actually converts low level ozone to oxygen? Maybe Volvo owners (98 and up) should be given an exemption given the ozone problems the DC metropolitan area seems to regularly have (<-- spoken with tongue firmly planted in cheek). You see, this is as specious an argument as that fomented by the high-breds re. gaining a pass for their "environmental benefits"
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Road Warrior
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quote: Man of Reason, If you have activities to attend, then I suggest you adjust your work hours and leave home earlier to get to work earlier and thus be able to leave work earlier to get home earlier. We all have made the decision to have a farther commute to work to be able a have an "affordable" home to live in. You moved to Stafford with the knowledge that you had 50 mile (+/-) one-way commute. I live in Spotsylvania County south of Massaponax and my commute is 65 miles one-way. While I do not have children and after school activities & games, community association meetings to attend, I do have a life beyond work and I made the personal decision to leave home at 5:30 am so that I am able to leave work at 3:30 pm and thusly be able to be at home around 5:00 pm on most days. Your suggestion is self-centered and was not presented as a solution to solve the ever increasing problem of HOV congestion. quote: Why should only hybrids get an exemption based on MPGs??? My car (a VW diesel) gets 48-50 MPG WITH three riders at 65-70 MPH. When riding by myself and cruising at 65-75 MPH, I average over 50 MPG. Shouldn't I be eligible to receive an exemption to ride by myself based on the EPA mileage ratings posting on the window sticker (38 City/49 Highway) when I bought the car? Again, your suggestion is not only self-centered and was not presented as a solution to solve the ever increasing problem of HOV congestion, it is discriminatory. quote: First of all, this only pertains to the afternoon rush hour and it is not a problem. Unless there is an "incident" in the HOV lanes or the HOV "Lookie Loo's" are slowing down to see something in the regular lanes, letting single riders use the HOV for <3 miles is not the problem. Instead of trying to recommend ways to continue the problem of HOV congestion, why don't you figure out a way to ease the congestion. Done... For now.... John |
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mfassler
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Man of Reason---you MUST be insane. I hope your Hybrid breaks down and you never drive on our roads again. I too, live in Stafford and drive to/from DC EVERY DAY. And unless you are on STRONG medication, then you must have serious issues.
Who do you think you are? Why are you SO selfish?? I agree with your request to extend the HOV restriction hours. Wholeheartedly. But how many times and how many ways can we say it?? HOV lanes are for HIGH OCCUPANCY VEHICLES. That's why they're called HOV/CARPOOL lanes. If you don't carpool, what the heck are you doing on OUR roads? If you can't pick up carpoolers, or you can't drive in the regular lanes, then please, stay home, miss your family events or whatever...and we'll have NO pity for you. The HOV-4 initiative is STRONGLY growing, and when ADDED to the bills which would remove Hybrids (which are NOT clean fuel, as they still use gasoline), law enforcement, and motorcycles off of the HOV unless they too had 4 riders will be the ONLY saving grace of commuting in the Washington, DC/I-95 corridor. You, and your Hybrid, can stay in Stafford and stay off OUR roads until you become one of "us" by starting a carpool or picking up slugs. GET OVER YOURSELF!! quote: |
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mfassler
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THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT!! WAY TO GO HONDU!!!
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bnvus
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I had to respond to this. While I commend the Hybrid owners for taking a step forward to helping cut air pollution you still contribute to the overall traffic pollution by continually driving by yourselves. Let's face it MOST of you didn't really buy the Hybrid for the gas savings, tax write offs or the environment in the DC area. MOST bought them for the convience of traveling HOV whenever you want.
I support this law change and believe that the HOV rules should apply to all who use them. The Hybrid technically does not really meet the Federal Governments requirement of "Zero Emissions" to actively take advantage of the Clean Air Act guidelines. Each year the Fed has been extending the Hybrids exemption because they HAVE been helping in places such as LA. They have threatened that this exemption will end and the state will be the one to suffer because the Fed will pull funds allocated for repairs until the state complies. Bottom line there needs to be no exemptions. HOV-3 means H-O-V-3. My first post and my .02. |
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