Washington Post reporter seeks help on hybrids

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   I really don't think Hybrids are the cause of all problems.  I own a hybrid.  I have commuted from Warrenton, Fairfax, Alexandria and now Springfield into the city (18 years).  I just think this area has grown horrendously in the past 10 yrs and the roads just aren't keeping up with the growth rate.  The clog in the traffic is caused by the fact that the HOV lanes are opened to everyone at the Pentagon in the morning and Edsall Road in the evening.  There's no clear flow of traffic.  If you can't clear the road of cars, it doesn't matter how many cars are on the road -- there will be a traffic jam.

	Also please note, off-duty policemen are allowed on the HOV and so are motorcycles -- they need as much space as a car.

	Since I have joined the HOV crowd, I have never seen such aggressive driving!  The speeds at which people travel are insane.

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Stuck2 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stuck2 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Apr 2004 at 1:49pm
	I really don't think Hybrids are the cause of all problems. I own a hybrid. I have commuted from Warrenton, Fairfax, Alexandria and now Springfield into the city (18 years). I just think this area has grown horrendously in the past 10 yrs and the roads just aren't keeping up with the growth rate. The clog in the traffic is caused by the fact that the HOV lanes are opened to everyone at the Pentagon in the morning and Edsall Road in the evening. There's no clear flow of traffic. If you can't clear the road of cars, it doesn't matter how many cars are on the road -- there will be a traffic jam. Also please note, off-duty policemen are allowed on the HOV and so are motorcycles -- they need as much space as a car. Since I have joined the HOV crowd, I have never seen such aggressive driving! The speeds at which people travel are insane.

tdar20 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 29 Jul 2002 Location: va Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote tdar20 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Apr 2004 at 11:50am
	All this talk about Hybrid vehicles and nothing about the dramatic growth in our area? How can we forget about how fast Stafford county is expanding and the stress that it puts on all the reaffic lanes. I would be willing to bet the growth rate far exceeds the hybrid rate. SOmethign needs to be done about expanding the HOV lanes and not just with a tax increase!

sluDgE Members Profile Find Members Posts Master Slug Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Status: Offline Points: 501	Post Options Post Reply Quote sluDgE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Apr 2004 at 7:09am
	"The times, they are a-changin'" ... guess what... could hardly believe my eyes ... I saw saw two hybrids on I-395 this morning and each car had THREE occupants! Could this be a new trend of hybrids actually hauling slugs? My goodness! [:)]

pb1974 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote pb1974 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Apr 2004 at 4:29pm
	I'd love to see the HOV out there, or at least have a more reliable slugging system to/from Routes 3 and 17. But I'm sure I'll be long gone from this area before HOV makes it out there.[:)]

emancilla Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote emancilla Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Apr 2004 at 2:46pm
	It's unfortunate for you guys, who live in Fredericksburg, that the HOV lanes don't extend upthere. It should be. Maybe we see that in 10 years.

Juli Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 23 May 2003 Location: va Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Juli Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Apr 2004 at 1:18pm
	I can relate to the time K2 takes because I to live out of Fredericksburg and then off to the east 10 plus miles. 2 hrs is usually the norm.[\|)]

pb1974 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote pb1974 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Apr 2004 at 8:39am
	I agree, va. Anything more than an hour (max) is too long. It's definitely not something I'll be able to do indefinitely.

vabigblue Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote vabigblue Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 2004 at 3:56pm
	quote: Originally posted by pb1974 [br]Well, I obviously can't speak for K2, but I live in Fredericksburg and it can easily take 2 hours to get to and from work. I leave home at 6:30am and get to work by 8:30 (8 if it's a light day). It's just as long in the evenings. I guess that probably explains it. I didn't realize it took that long. Maybe I concentrate only on Tacketts; therefore anything outside of 1 hour (which is far too long) is foreign.

pb1974 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote pb1974 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 2004 at 1:04pm
	Well, I obviously can't speak for K2, but I live in Fredericksburg and it can easily take 2 hours to get to and from work. I leave home at 6:30am and get to work by 8:30 (8 if it's a light day). It's just as long in the evenings.

emancilla Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote emancilla Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 2004 at 12:13pm
	Vabigblue, I was going to ask the same question.