I'm so happy

MDC - so, what FACTS did VA use in the motorcycle determination? None?

raymond - Did you have a chance to read the Outlook section in the Post on Sunday 7/2 and how ethanol is more likely to cause extinction of the human race than alternatives? Are you really against more efficient use of the resources we have? Do you really want to promote excessive greenhouse gasses by using conventional vehicles over hybrids? Do you care that little for your childern?

Folks, you can keep waiting for something better, or you can get off the sidelines and DO. I know you probably don't believe that you are personally killing our planet by refusing to make environmentally sound choices. No one really wants to, which is why we may be doomed. If every car in that commuter lot was either a hybrid or an alternate fueled vehicle, I'd be more willing to belive that you really care = but you as a group and individually don't. You intentionally live miles away from your work and then complain that the commute is long; you refuse to take mass transit; and you refuse to purchase environmentally sound vehicles. It's nearly unbelievable.

NoSUV,
I suggest you read the links more carefully. The state has to determine that safety is at risk by allowing motorcycles in HOV in order for them to disallow it. There is no provision requiring that they prove that HOV is safer.

The basic concepts of equilibrium and inertia are applied in operating 2-wheeled vehicles. Maintaining balance is achieved by making small corrections on your position lateraly, which is impossible to do in a stationary position due to friction. Hence movement is required to maintain balance.

So speeds helps corrections in bottom/top relationship of an object.

Speed and balance are directly proportional to a certain extent (barring other factors such as lower friction indexes and wind resistance), hence more speed, better balance.

So let's apply our logic 101

HOV = more speed

and

More speed = better balance

and

better balance = safer rider

Therefore,

HOV = safer rider.

Here's some information on bicycle physics:

http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~fajans/Teaching/MoreBikeFiles/BikeQuestions.htm

I have *got* to stop suffering fools.

rod - faith or facts? Faith tends to be emotional. Facts can be twisted (figures don't lie but liers figure). But I'll be fair - show me the facts that motorcycles are safer in HOV lanes. Should be some data somewhere. Don't rely on MDC to find it for you, though.

MDC, thanks for reinforcing my point - that there is no difference between hybrids and motorcycles except for the number of seats.

By the way, there is no data to prove or disprove the answer to the FAQ in the FHA link you provided - put that one down to wishful thinking. The answer clearly points out that it is a "rationale" - which is fairly close to "rationalization." Of course, seems that you are usually fact adverse.