hybrids get out of the fast lanes!

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   This strictly applies to RUSH HOUR and when traffic is heavy (meaning most the time around here).

	So basically you are saying that EVERYONE is to be in the right hand lane UNLESS they are passing the person in front?  Yeah right.  Like that will ever happen.  During the rush hour, all lanes are required to move traffic and the idiot, who thinks they can barrel down the road and cars are supposed to leap over to the right hand lane to let them by, is delusional.

	Technically you shouldn't be passing UNLESS the car in front is going under the speed limit, therefore you are confined to the right hand lane.  Technically you shouldn't be speeding up BEYOND the speed limit to pass.  Technically you should only be traveling 65 mph on the HOV.  So who is breaking the law now?

	Stupid argument -- belongs under the category of "how to be a god wanna be -- part the water for me."

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VA4ver Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote VA4ver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2005 at 2:48pm
	This strictly applies to RUSH HOUR and when traffic is heavy (meaning most the time around here). So basically you are saying that EVERYONE is to be in the right hand lane UNLESS they are passing the person in front? Yeah right. Like that will ever happen. During the rush hour, all lanes are required to move traffic and the idiot, who thinks they can barrel down the road and cars are supposed to leap over to the right hand lane to let them by, is delusional. Technically you shouldn't be passing UNLESS the car in front is going under the speed limit, therefore you are confined to the right hand lane. Technically you shouldn't be speeding up BEYOND the speed limit to pass. Technically you should only be traveling 65 mph on the HOV. So who is breaking the law now? Stupid argument -- belongs under the category of "how to be a god wanna be -- part the water for me."

bnvus Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote bnvus Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2005 at 11:41am
	The issue is holding up the flow of traffic ir-reguardless of the time of day. If someone in the left lane is coming up from behind their intention is obviously to pass. Drivers not passing in the left lane should move over and let them by. Hey it's their ticket. And the majority of exits off HOV (I-95) are not in the left lane. The majority is the Springfield exchange in the afternoon, which is not considered HOV until you get by (7100) Franconia Springfield Parkway Exit.

VA4ver Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote VA4ver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2005 at 9:34am
	But when all lanes are full how can you say only use right lane if you want to travel the speed limit (65)? Consider all the buses that occupy the lanes that travel anywhere from 35-55? Then everyone has to travel in left. I gather that the people who want EVERYONE to travel in the right lane, except to pass, are the speed demons who want to travel in rush hour traffic at excessive speeds. "Rush" hour traffic doesn't mean you get to rush -- you get to travel the bottle necks with the rest of us. In NORMAL flow of traffic, yes, slower traffic stay to right. But if you are going with the FLOW, then left/right doesn't matter. It only matters when someone decides to go against the flow and travel slower. Then that person should be in the right until his/her exit. Also take into consideration that the left lane is the exit lane for the majority of HOV exits.

bnvus Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote bnvus Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 2005 at 1:37pm
	In Pennsylvania, the law clearly states slower than the flow of traffic. The left lane has been designated as pass only.

N_or_S_bound Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote N_or_S_bound Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 2005 at 12:06pm
	Slower than what though? The speed limit? Or slower than the illegal flow of traffic? I can't imagine that the powers that be would want "slower traffic move right" to mean someone going 70 in a 65 mph speed limit when others are trying to go 75. That would be somewhat of an internal contradiction in the system. NoSb SOV because you can, HOV because you care!

bnvus Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote bnvus Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 2005 at 11:36am
	quote: Originally posted by Luddite [br]Since when in the last three years is there a fast lane on HOV? There may be fast 1/4 mile sections, but there are no longer any fast lanes. Just pass on the right, or the shoulder, or tailgate until they move over. Sheesh. Now hang on a second. Call me crazy. But last I checked it was slower cars ride in the right lane and pass on the left when safe. Europe has been doing this for years and it is downright curteous. This is ongoing problem in the United States and has recently been addressed by local governments. Some states have will ticket you for riding the left lane while not passing. Pennsylvania is one of them.

k2 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote k2 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Oct 2005 at 7:47pm
	How fast would you like the hybrid vehicles to travel?

Luddite Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Luddite Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Sep 2005 at 9:17am
	Since when in the last three years is there a fast lane on HOV? There may be fast 1/4 mile sections, but there are no longer any fast lanes. Just pass on the right, or the shoulder, or tailgate until they move over. Sheesh.

VA4ver Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote VA4ver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2005 at 12:51pm
	How about you direct your yelling to all cars (hybrids, cycles, BUSES) in the left who are moving over for you. Guess you think you are God. (Know I shouldn't even respond to this person but many a times I've been in the left lane getting ready to EXIT and some yahoo rides my tailpipe.)

ehoberg Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Location: va Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote ehoberg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2005 at 12:25pm
	Of course. Therefore, I direct my remark to the drivers of Hybrids. However it works out that they move intolerably slow in the fast lanes, I ask that the cars be driven in the slow lanes. grutzi.