"8 Mile Backup" ?

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   Like I say vote HOT!!!!!!!! Violations will be reduced meaning reduced enforcement since the violators will now be paying!!!!!!!!!!

	Meanwhile, I will enjoy my less than 1/2 hour commute each day!!!

	VOTE HOT!!!! SO GAS PASSERS LIKE ME WON'T ANNOY YOU!!!

	whoever smealt it dealt it!!!!

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flatulentsluggerhugger Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote flatulentsluggerhugger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 9:51am
	Like I say vote HOT!!!!!!!! Violations will be reduced meaning reduced enforcement since the violators will now be paying!!!!!!!!!! Meanwhile, I will enjoy my less than 1/2 hour commute each day!!! VOTE HOT!!!! SO GAS PASSERS LIKE ME WON'T ANNOY YOU!!! whoever smealt it dealt it!!!!

cdatkins Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 24 Jun 2003 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote cdatkins Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 9:30am
	Enforcement: good The way enforcement went down today: bad Honestly, it doesn't make much sense to enforce like this if the extra time you will cause commuters is more than the extra time caused by cheaters. The only positive for an event like this is the hope that a massive show of force will deter future cheaters.

jojobean Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 16 Dec 2003 Location: DC Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jojobean Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 9:06am
	My problem is not the enforcement but come on ....do you need that many cops? Then there is the timing, why not do it on a Friday afternoon when traffic is backed up anyway? I understand the surprise element but all they did this morning is give drivers a reason to slow down and wonder why the heck they need 30 cops to pull people over.

coulbc Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote coulbc Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 8:40am
	Considering many vehicles have tinted windows, are going 70 mph or more, or have someone laying down in the backseat, it's hard to watch every vehicle speed past. Predictable enforcement allows violators to find the loopholes. I agree a backup is bad, but the random traps are probably most effective. It would be nice to see how many are ticketed daily. I've heard a lot of statistics. Let's see the numbers please.

slugcarrier Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote slugcarrier Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 8:35am
	quote: Originally posted by carleric [br]Just so we understand: When people complain about the back up today what is YOUR solution to the issue of how to enforce? On several of the ramps violators can avoid the enforcement by turning around. At least this way more (in theory) can be caught. Is your objection the FACT of the enforcement or the NUMBER of idle-looking police? No objection to enforcement, but this was overkill and just plain stupid. You would have thought there was a terrorist alert on the HOV the number of wasted assets there. Random presence in the HOV by police actively looking and pulling people over is much more efficient and less disruptive to the legal HOV cars and traffic flow. Knowledge of regular presence without a massive checkpoint is the way to deterrence.

coulbc Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote coulbc Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 8:34am
	The problem here is the violators, not the enforcement. This reminds me of a little story. A man gets pulled over by the police for speeding, The officer then makes a request for his credentials and the man says "Hey, other people were speeeding also." The officer then says "You ever been fishin'?" The man replies "Lots of times." The officer then replies "You ever catch all the fish?"

KCWolfPck Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote KCWolfPck Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 8:29am
	I didn't say I had an objection. I'm all for enforcement.

carleric Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Location: va Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote carleric Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 8:26am
	Just so we understand: When people complain about the back up today what is YOUR solution to the issue of how to enforce? On several of the ramps violators can avoid the enforcement by turning around. At least this way more (in theory) can be caught. Is your objection the FACT of the enforcement or the NUMBER of idle-looking police?

KCWolfPck Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote KCWolfPck Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 8:22am
	When VA State Police call my house again this year begging for their donations....I am going to remind them of this day and how they already cost me $15 for missing 1/2 hr. of work. Booyakasha!!!

flatulentsluggerhugger Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote flatulentsluggerhugger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 7:59am
	Sure did enjoy my 25 minute commute to work this morining. It's nice to live close to work in this area!!!!! VOTE HOT!!!! SO GAS PASSERS LIKE ME WON'T ANNOY YOU!!! whoever smealt it dealt it!!!!