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    Posted: 30 Sep 2004 at 9:38pm
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Originally posted by ronin718
[br]And maybe that's the problem around here. Everyone has too much of a "me-first" mentality that they can't slow their happy butts down to do something resembling the speed limit.




HAHA. I agree COMPLETELY.
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[br]USA: Your car was totaled by someone who was doing 25 mph?


I was driving a 1997 Accord and I was stopped; this girl was driving a Volvo 240 station wagon (read: a tank) and was doing 25 and slammed directly into the back of the car. The trunk lid was crumpled, quarter-panel damage, other structural damage. The reason it was totaled is that the repair bill exceeded the book value of the car and insurance would not have fixed it. I probably could have worked out a deal with the insurance carriers, but I didn't because, as much as I loved my car, since it was the second time it had been rear-ended (and this one was some severe damage), I would not have kept the car, and I was able to get more from the insurers than I would have trading it in or selling it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote USA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2004 at 2:29pm
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Originally posted by ScarletLSG
[br]Okay, #1, #3,#9, #10 -- all were "Rear ended in bumper to bumper traffic." -- and you state that "Speed was a factor in ZERO of the accidents." My claim is that DISPARATE speed is the cause of accidents. IF you were rear ended then YOU were going slower than the individual that rear ended you, which caused you to have the accident. DISPARATE SPEEDS.

How does that make speed an issue? I've been rear-ended twice. Both times I was stopped. The first time, in 1999, I was fourth in line at a red light; the light turned green and some dumb woman drove right into the back of me, I guess because I was waiting for the three cars in front of me to move. Last month I got rear-ended (and my car was totaled) when I was stopped in a line of traffic waiting at a red light and some 18-year-old chick wasn't paying attention to where she was going. She was doing the speed limit, too--she was doing 25 mph when she creamed me. Was "disparate speed" the cause of the accidents? No, it was driver inattention.
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no.

If idiots who think they are above the law tried to stay below 75 instead of driving 90, swerving in and out of lanes, while talking on the cell phone....

we'd all be better off.
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Originally posted by ScarletLSG
[br]Okay, #1, #3,#9, #10 -- all were "Rear ended in bumper to bumper traffic." -- and you state that "Speed was a factor in ZERO of the accidents." My claim is that DISPARATE speed is the cause of accidents. IF you were rear ended then YOU were going slower than the individual that rear ended you, which caused you to have the accident. DISPARATE SPEEDS.

Oh ... I thought you'd agreed to disagree.

ScarletLSG



Don't agree with your use of disparate. I was going zero, they were going 5 mph. Not that much of a difference.

Ok, I've said more than my $0.02. I guess if you stay to the right, and I stay to the left of the road we'll get along fine :-)
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It seems to me that none of you are replying on-topic. Your discussion should be moved to another forum dealing with speed limit safety issues.
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Just think. If everyone traveled at about the posted speed, the amount and seriousness of the accidents would reduce. Can't say they'll all disappear because of human error. But if everyone stepped back and relaxed, then some of the error would disappear. For all of you who do speed, speed is not 100% of the problem; human error is probably 90% but speed maximizes the error. And the cars of today -- going 80+ is a piece of cake. I've looked down and done a double take! It does take a conscious effort to keep to or close to the posted speeds. For the speed demons, save it for the OPEN road--it's not meant for rush hour traffic or heavily populated areas.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ScarletLSG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 2004 at 7:03pm
Okay, #1, #3,#9, #10 -- all were "Rear ended in bumper to bumper traffic." -- and you state that "Speed was a factor in ZERO of the accidents." My claim is that DISPARATE speed is the cause of accidents. IF you were rear ended then YOU were going slower than the individual that rear ended you, which caused you to have the accident. DISPARATE SPEEDS.

Oh ... I thought you'd agreed to disagree.

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Originally posted by Stuck2
[br]The speed limit is set for a reason. People should abide by what is set by LAW.


Really? you might want to visit www.dumblaws.com and other such sites.

Saw this law on a tv show a few years ago:

Since it's a law in PA (don't think they've repealed it yet), I'm sure when you drive there and come to an intersection, you stop your car, wait a set period of time (it was in minutes, but can't remember the specific amount), then get out, wave a red flag, get back in, wait the same amount of time, then get out, wave a lantern, get back in, wait set amount of time, then get out, fire a rifle, get back in and wait set amount of time, then you may proceed.

If you don't, then you are not abiding by the LAW. What you recommend, death by stoning?

And God help you if you have sex in anything other than the missionary position. I'll be by to check.

Seriously tho, the point I'm trying to make is that some laws were good at the time, and maybe not now. I have passed many officers going over the speed limit, why (according to you) did they not pull me over that second? Why, most likely they are looking for the people who are weaving in and out of traffic and doing other unsafe things. Those of us going with the flow of traffic, they leave alone. Now, am I saying that if I get pulled over and get a ticket that the cop is wrong and I'm right? Absolutely not. I'm 100% wrong, and I pay my fine and move on with my life.
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Originally posted by ScarletLSG
[br]Scottt,

Generally speaking, YES disparate speeds DO cause accidents.

ScarletLSG



I am 35, and have been involved in 10 accidents (none my fault) in which I was a driver of one of the cars. Speed was a factor in ZERO of the accidents.

#1 Rear ended in bumper to bumper traffic
#2 Car cut off semi, semi's back trailer flipped and slid into me backwards
#3 Rear ended in bumper to bumper traffic
#4 rear ended in carwash
#5 tow truck backed into me
#6 person rolled back into me at stoplight
#7 bumper ripped from car by improperly mounted parking divider
#8 person turned left into me from non-left turn lane
#9 Rear ended in bumper to bumper traffic
#10 Rear ended in bumper to bumper traffic

#'s 4-9 were all in the same car in a 4 yr period. The others were all different cars each.

So, since I've been speeding for 19 yrs, you'd think (according to you) that I'd be having speed related accidents left and right.

I have seen speed related accidents, but they were because the moron behind the wheel thought they could drive very fast in the rain. Again, not the speed that did it but the idiot behind the wheel. Off all my friends and relatives, none has ever been involved in a speed related accident.

According to your logic, how to you explain this? Guess my force field is working very well.
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