Unwarranted Police Action AGAINST Commuters!

The PWC Police are threatening to ticket and tow cars parked in the designated overflow area of the 234 lot.

An officer was at the lot this am passing out a flyer:

Parking in designated spaces only.

Cars will be ticketed, towed or both if in violation.

DO NOT block or obstruct other vehicles or the right of way.

If you have any qquestions contact the Prince William County Police at 703-792-7203.

Hmmmm. I am really sick of the county and the way they treat commuters. Call Maureen Caddigan and ask why she has obstructed the use of $5.2M of STATE FUNDING that sits in her district, set aside to expand the lot.

Call her at 703 793 4645.

Take NO EXCUSES.

Suzan

Hey folks! Please review the e-mail trail below. This is what I received from the county on Rt 234 and the crack down on parking. I don't expect a response from PWC Police. They will more than likely cite some safety code and tell us to deal with it. But it sounds like the land around the lot is owned by private entity so the county is "powerless" to acquire and start any improvement. I doubt this will be resolved anytime soon and in speaking with folks who have lived alot longer than me...is par for the course.



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From: "Shammout, Khattab O." <kshammout@pwcgov.org>
To: ddabney67@yahoo.com
Cc: "Blaser, Tom J." <tblaser@pwcgov.org>; "Grasso, Lynne D." <lgrasso@pwcgov.org>; "Raines, Jeffrey" <JRaines@pwcgov.org>; "Deane, Charlie T." <ctdeane@pwcgov.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:54:13 PM
Subject: RE: 234 Commuter Lot


Good afternoon Mr. Dabney, this is in response to your concern regarding the Route 1/234 commuter lot project. The main reason for the delay in the original timeline for start of construction involved the right-of-way acquisition phase for the project. As you may be aware, the original project scope did not include the purchase of a significant parcel needed for the construction of the project which belongs to a private developer. At the onset of the project we were planning on expanding the lot within the available VDOT right-of-way. However, when the adjacent developer approached us to revise our design to accommodate their future construction of the Route 1/234 interchange ( which means we had to expand outside the available VDOT right-of-way into the developer’s property) by agreeing to fund any additional cost for this revision and to dedicate at no cost to the County for their entire parcel needed for the revision, we accepted because it will better accommodate the planned interchange in this area, thus minimizing impact to the lot in the future. The revised plans were prepared and advertised for construction back in late summer of 2008, and the County received several bids when we were unexpectedly informed that the developer’s was unable to fulfill their obligations by dedicating their proffered land needed for the project because of an existing mortgage on the property. We at the County had to reject all received bids and revise our plans to go back into expansion to the side within the available VDOT right-of-way. The plans are currently in their final completion and scheduled for submission to County for review next week. We are also scheduled to advertise this project early spring of this year for significant completion by end of the year.



The new design plans for the commuter lot will provide over 840 spaces; this is about 500 spaces more than existing.



Additionally, with this email I am copying the Prince William County Police Department with your concern regarding parking at the existing lot.





If you should have any more questions or concerns regarding this or any other Transportation related project please feel free to contact me.





Khattab O. Shammout, P.E.

Capital Projects Division Chief

Prince William County

Tel: (703)792-6826

Fax (703)792-7159

Kshammout@pwcgov.org






On Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:12 PM I sent the following:

To: Raines, Jeffrey; ajbrown@pwcgov.org; Caddigan, Maureen S.
Subject: Fw: 234 Commuter Lot



Happy New Year,



I am requesting an update on the project below and also to voice a concern. On 12 Jan 09 I parked in the overflow unimproved sloped section of Rt 234 lot and noticed that a PWC Police Officer was handing out flyers advising everyone to park in designated parking spots only. When asked about parking on the unimproved parking area east of the main lot, I was told that those areas are not "designated" and vehicles would be ticketed. Why is PWC Police cracking down on this issue now and why is it taking so long for the Rt 234 lot to be expanded? The lot continues to be heavily utilized. Since the property west of the main lot was "acquired by a developer outside the scope of the county" can the county buy the now closed Mexican restaurant across Rt 234, level it and put in a cross walk and more parking? Again I ask, when will construction begin and why was it delayed. I've visited the Lake Ridge commuter lot and it is a thing of beauty and I wonder why the hardworking military, civil service and contractor citizens of south Woodbridge, Dumfries and surrounding area can not enjoy the same accommodations. I will say that the great Americans at PRTC are doing a great job getting us to and from work.



http://www.pwcgov.org/eservices/qpr/InetDetail.asp?ProjId=556#



Project Name:
DOT: Route 234/1 Commuter Parking Lot

Project Type:
State Project

Project Description:
Expand parking lot at intersection of State Routes 1 and 234. We have finalized and selected an alternative for this expansion, which will accommodate the 234/1 interchange and expansion of the lot with maximum parking apace increase.

The developer in question is Kettler. They were planning a huge development behind the Southbridge Development that included a Jack Nicklaus golf course and extending RT234 past Skips junkyard, through Southbridge. The name was originally Harbor Station but they have changed the name so many times I don't know what it is anymore. They started the plans when housing was booming with the caveat that 234 extension (of which the lot expansion was a part) didn't need to be completed until the 501st was built. Well last I heard there are less than 100 built. This would all have been avoided if Maureen would have taken the money Jeff Fredrick secured for us YEARS AGO and if she wasn't in the back pocket of residential developers.

CJ

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Originally posted by CJ

The developer in question is Kettler. . . They were planning a huge development . . . 234 extension (of which the lot expansion was a part) didn't need to be completed until the 501st was built. . . . This would all have been avoided if Maureen would have taken the money Jeff Fredrick secured for us YEARS AGO. . .

CJ

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I'd beg you to correct your text. The 234 lot expansion was not part of the HS development. -- The 234 lot expansion was the commuter friendly idea from Jeff Frederick.

Go figure -- Maurheen puts KSI ahead of the working slobs that pay her tax base -- but not her campaign funds.

Call her office and let her know that we are sick of the lies!
(703) 792 4645

yes Jeff Fredrick did come up with the ORIGINAL plan (and the money)but we were told at our home owners meeting that the expansion was on hold until the 234 expansion was underway because Kettler had agreed to make it part of the work they were doing. Since that was on hold so is the expansion.

CJ